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Comment on Why cars that run on the hydrogen fuel cell are better than gasoline cars? by jeff m

jeff m — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:24:59 +0000

I don’t think hydrogen powered cars will ever be practical as an automotive fuel. There is too many energy wasting steps between electricity and a tank of hydrogen. Currently, most hydrogen
is made from natural gas ,and it’d be more efficient to just use the nat. gas for fuel. This link goes to an article, which gives figures for the energy wasted by the conversion

http://www.recoverybydiscovery.com/hydro...
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Comment on Why cars that run on the hydrogen fuel cell are better than gasoline cars? by Jeffrey B

Jeffrey B — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:59:59 +0000

That is basically the only reason. You don't get as long a range with hydrogen.
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Comment on Why cars that run on the hydrogen fuel cell are better than gasoline cars? by Ty E

Ty E — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:51:59 +0000

well thier really even because all the energy it takes to make hydrogen fuel... think about it
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Comment on Why cars that run on the hydrogen fuel cell are better than gasoline cars? by Agua-Luna.com -I LIVE OFF GRID-

Agua-Luna.com -I LIVE OFF GRID- — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:06:59 +0000

It’s free. and I get about 10 times better mileage per gallon.

let me start off by saying Hydrogen is a great option for the concept of free energy. I built my first hydrogen cell about 5 years ago. Have converted over 50 vehicles in the last 10 years (gydrogen and EV) and now currently run 2 trucks (and another EV), my home hot water heater, home stove and home generator on hydrogen for free with caught rain water and the help of a $10 solar panel. I offer a step by step DIY guide to walk anyone interested threw the process. You can find it at www agua-luna com or you can email me.

There are basically 3 safe ways to make and use it… chemically, electrically and molecularly, the first 2 being easier so I’ll only discuss them here. The fallowing steps were taking directly out of a DIY guide I offer to those who would like to run their vehicles or home on hydrogen safely. The entire guide is available at www agua-luna com

On demand h2 generators are a bit different from the Hollywood versions like seen Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves, that tend to explode violently every time a film is being made. However when used in an on-demand system there is no storage of hydrogen and oxygen in its gas form, only liquid (water) and is only transformed into gas “on-demand” in small cylinder size amounts. It’s actually safer then gasoline as it doesn’t evaporate, creating explosive fumes in the tank like gas. the following were actually taken out of my $5 guide available at www agua-luna com

Chemically

1. You’ll need a 6inch x 1ft schedule 40 pvc pipe. With pvc cement glue a cap on the bottom and use a screw on cap for the top. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, screwing in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).
2. Now crunch up a couple aluminum cans (beer cans, soda cans etc) and drop them into the pvc pipe, along with a couple cups of lye (Red Devil drain opener has lye in it, some Clorox and Drano’s do to).
3. Then simply add water, screw on the top and wait a few minutes.

What happens in simplicity is that aluminum and lye don’t really get along so they battle, and as always the innocent civilians (water H2O) that the most casualties, by giving up its hydrogen and oxygen. This then builds up in the void of the pipe and is ready to be vented into your engine, by opening the valve. You may need to start your engine on gas then switch it off after the hydrogen starts burning.

Electrical is a bit easier then Chemically.

1. Simply take a small solar panel 1.5 amps is what I use ($9 at harborfreight.com), connect the 2 wires from the panel +- to 2 conductors (carbon cores of batteries work well, just be careful removing it from the jacket), but any conductive material will work ie. Copper, aluminum, steel, etc.
2. Drop the wires into a water tank (I use 55gal drums), make sure they don’t touch each other.
3. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, screwing in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).
4. Then simply add water, screw on the top cap and wait.
After a few hours tiny bubbles will form and rise off one conductor (that’s hydrogen) and even smaller bubbles that just looks like foam will rise off the other (oxygen). I don’t remember which likes the positive and which likes the neg hydrogen or the oxygen.

The third method is more complicated and is what I use for my vehicles. It’s just a modified Joe’s Cell, there’s a step by step DIY guide available to walk you threw the process here www agua-luna com
It also covers the other 2 methods described in more detail.

www agua-luna com
Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online and on-site workshops, seminars and internships to help others help the environment.

Dan Martin
Alterative Energy / Sustainable Consultant, Living 100% on Alternative & Author of How One Simple Yet Incredibly Powerful Resource Is Transforming The Lives of Regular People From All Over The World… Instantly Elevating Their Income & Lowering Their Debt, While Saving The Environment by Using FREE ENERGY… All With Just One Click of A Mouse…For more info Visit:

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Comment on Why cars that run on the hydrogen fuel cell are better than gasoline cars? by roadhazzards

roadhazzards — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:41:59 +0000

Currently the ONLY reason they would be better is because of the lack of emissions harmful to the environment. The reasons they aren’t better (currently) are as follows.

1. few if any exist

2. Costs will be outrageously overpriced like the Hybrids are

3. Lack of sufficient fuel stations to make them economically or commercially viable

Other than that virtually any gasoline fired internal combustion engine can be made to run on hydrogen gas.
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Comment on Why cars that run on the hydrogen fuel cell are better than gasoline cars? by donfletcheryh

donfletcheryh — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:02:59 +0000

Only if we find a very clean way to make hydrogen would hydrogen power be that much better.

Thus far they mostly create hydrogen from natural gas, methane, leaving CO2 as a byproduct. not a clean green source. not a renewable resource. but it can be made from vegetation.

Converting methane to hydrogen and using it to make electricity is more efficient than using the methane as a fuel in an internal combustion engine. It is also a lot less polluting.

Hydrogen when used as a fuel for an internal combustion engine is not efficient. It should not be used that way.
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Comment on How much are the new hydrogen cars? by SilentDoGood

SilentDoGood — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:14:59 +0000

Hydrogen cars are not cost effective to operate and are too expensive for the average consumer.

Why not consider using the "World’s Cleanest Car" that runs on compressed air and stop the pollution now?

"BBC News is reporting that a French company has developed a pollution-free car which runs on compressed air. India’s Tata Motors has the car under production and it may be on sale in Europe and India by the end of the year.

The air car, also known as the Mini-CAT or City Cat, can be refueled in minutes from an air compressor at specially equipped gas stations and can go 200 km on a 1.5 euro fill-up — roughly 125 miles for $3. The top speed will be almost 70 mph and the cost of the vehicle as low as $7000.

The car features a fibreglass body and a revolutionary electrical system and is completely computer-controlled. It is powered by the expansion of compressed air, using no combustion at all, and the exhaust is entirely clean and cool enough for use in the internal air conditioning system. "
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http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Air_car_runs_on_compressed_air_0104.html

Comment on Why cars that run on the hydrogen fuel cell are better than gasoline cars? by Benjamin R

Benjamin R — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:12:59 +0000

The economy. Oil is a non sustainable resource used to create gasoline. Thus, it is subject to monopolies based on supply and demand.
Hydrogen cells could be created by anyone taught to make them. Although it would be extremely skilled labor, they are an infinite resource.
While early on the price of a hydrogen fuel cell may be more than a gasoline engine, this price will drop as manufacture becomes more common place.
Essentially, besides maintenance payments, you would no longer have to pay for gasoline, and thus would no longer have to pay to run your car.
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Comment on How much are the new hydrogen cars? by Michael Dittmer

Michael Dittmer — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:06:59 +0000

Yes, there are a few (BMW 7, Chevy Equinox, Honda FCX), but they are limited production, only leases, really expensive, and you have to live in a certain area/ other requirements (i.e. the FCX is only available in Southern California). Basically, all you are is a guinea pig for hydrogen car testing, so it's not really practical if you are looking to stave off high gas prices or save the environment (for which hydrogen power is still highly debated regarding environmental impact/efficiency).
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